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		<title>Honolulu 911 App</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus Landsberg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Honolulu 911 calls go like this: Your heart is racing. You either witness, or suffer, an illegal activity. You’re nervous, everything is coming at you. You manage to get to the phone, often your cell phone, hit the numbers and as the quickly pick up&#8230;]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honolulu 911 calls go like this: Your heart is racing. You either witness, or suffer, an illegal activity. You’re nervous, everything is coming at you. You manage to get to the phone, often your cell phone, hit the numbers and as the quickly pick up you blurt out your narration of the facts and they say <strong>“so do you want the paramedics or the police department?”</strong></p>
<p>The first response doesn’t even pretend to care about what’s going on.</p>
<p>Then they connect you, and then they start asking you questions. 5 seconds, ten seconds. Enough for a crime to be committed, for people to escape. More importantly, enough time for the attacked to swat the cellphone out of your hand. By talking you draw attention from the criminal to yourself as the most dangerous person in the room. You’re the one bringing the police. The most dangerous outcome for society is when it is more rewarding for us to protect ourselves than each other. That’s the endpoint on the road to anarchy.</p>
<p>And that’s not where it stops. THEN they start asking you questions: “Where are you? What does he look like? Tell me more? What did you say? Could you spell that?” I’ve listened to literally hundreds of 911 calls. It is like they are trained to keep you on the phone FOREVER. When the best thing by far is to say “Okay, run.” They want to ask questions until they are blue in the face.</p>
<p>You know, when you’re hiding in the closet and trying to be quiet, the state doesn’t even accept text messages. DUI attorneys accept text messages. I’m hoping the Government becomes at least as advanced as them.</p>
<h2>Honolulu 911 Solutions</h2>
<p>By now hopefully we realize the way we operate is not to only point out a problem, but to offer a solution. So here’s the solution, the Honolulu 911 APP! Clearly, in our society of cellphones and smartphones. Of Galaxies and iPhones and HTC and SONY there is no reason we should still be using 911 technology from Alexander Graham Bell.  Now what follows is designed for Honolulu 911, but really it could work for any wired metropolitan city.</p>
<p>Start with the big three:</p>
<h3>Who, where, when</h3>
<ol>
<li>The message can automatically send the phone number, and name associated with the phone to whoever receives the text messages.</li>
<li>Yelp knows where you are. AroundMe knows where you are. GoogleMaps knows where. Clearly this app could send your location.</li>
<li>And the exact time you sent it would log in the record.</li>
</ol>
<p>and the big three are taken care of!</p>
<h3>Precise information for Honolulu 911</h3>
<p>Clearly there’s more precise Information that needs to be told to the officers.  Two things happen. ONE, we decide what that is in advance and we can put that ON THE PAGE, that minimizes time to process the information. Already after the case we ask witnesses to fill out statements and ask particular questions</p>
<h3>911 Speed</h3>
<p>If we really sit down and think about it, for many, the speed of typing on the phone has long surpassed the the speed of talking, answering questions, and processing information. Watch any kid send on a phone three sentences of info (or three paragraphs) and at the same time say the same three things and ask the next person to process it and filter it into the right categories. The typing will win every time. And these are our next generation of witnesses!</p>
<h3>Outlay of the 911 App</h3>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/911-APP.png" rel="shadowbox[sbpost-2344];player=img;"><img class="size-full wp-image-2345 " title="911 App Photo" alt="911 App Honolulu" src="http://808crime.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/911-APP.png" width="590" height="319" /></a></p>
<p>First, look at the top three buttons:  Police, Fire and Ambulance. These are the big three and they’re clickable. what that means is, you can request one, two, or all three.  No information is sent until the SEND button is pressed in the lower Right corner. These buttons are clearly not binding on the dispatcher who would respond to the message, but merely advisory. This is included since the very first question you are asked when you call 911 is “Police or Ambulance”. A large part of the purpose of the app is to get around the lag time it takes to process that first question and direct you the right way. Especially</p>
<p>when for very serious crimes the answer is YES.</p>
<h4>Then we move to the second row of Honolulu 911 App buttons</h4>
<p>The second row is our optional buttons. These are designed to help whoever the dispatcher is give more information to whoever the first responder is going to be. While not mandatory, these are the helpful questions that would keep you on the phone for a thousand years The second row first includes a spinner that lays out a number of different potential reasons to call for an emergency responder.</p>
<p>These are just advisory, and broad messages, clearly the police would need to decide on the final list. I would point out, maybe 10 should be the maximum. We don’t want people getting lost in lines of words they need to bifurcate.</p>
<p><img src="/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/911-App-Slider.png" alt="App Slider 911 Honolulu" title="App Slider 911 Honolulu" class="rounded-all " /></p>
<p>Photo and Sound Clip are a little more time consuming, which is why they are optional.  Clearly Photo is important. Since much of the thought behind this app is to reduce words and processing time, and one picture is worth a thousand words, the picture option needs to be present. Imagine the benefits to having a picture of a. the scene, b. the offender, c. the victim, d. ANYTHING. Currently the design is one picture per message. If you need multiple pictures, use multiple messages.</p>
<p>Sound Clip is if you don’t want to type or are poor at typing or if the actually sound of what’s happening is most important.  Imagine if, during listening to your neighbor’s husband threaten her, you were able to record the threat and then did not have to actually appear in court to testify. Imagine if, during the heat of passion, you could witness by just recording the occurrence and sending it in.</p>
<p>I would suggest 1. the recording be processed the same way Google Voice processes their messages in a sense to get a typed version instantly. But also 2. It is preserved digitally as a sound file, in order to be used affirmatively in a prosecution. A voice recording is even better than a picture when it comes to independent  verifiable evidence. It is very hard to say that a recorded threat never happened. It is very hard to say a police officer told you to record a certain statement (where it is very common to say that on a written statement. “I am willing to prosecute” anyone?)</p>
<p>Finally the third row: A text box and a SEND button. The text box is the same as any other app you can write in. You have the keyboard, on the iPhone 5 or equipped phones you can type via voice. And the SEND, here shown with a little envelope signal. In the time it makes to hit three clicks, someone has your location, information, and identifying factors they need to initiate a life-saving procedure. And that’s what every step of this conversion needs to be about. What can we do to save more lives.</p>
<h4>Evidentiary rules</h4>
<p>When I first proposed this solution the pushback I immediately got from people in the know is “How does this get around the Rules of Evidence? This is all excludable evidence.” Which is a valid worry, but let’s answer it.</p>
<ol>
<li>It’s not. It’s clearly all “present sense impression” and admissible the same way any Honolulu 911 call would be. In fact, it is more admissible, since a 911 call includes a government employee asking questions. The App in this case would by an uninvited communication, and obviously an excited utterance.</li>
<li>Who cares! 911 is about saving lives, not catching criminals. That’s what it has to be about. It has to. Let’s not forget that.</li>
</ol>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h5>Honolulu 911 App: In Closing</h5>
<p>Now I don’t have the computer background to actually program this APP, but I have the legal experience to say what is necessary and what is extraneous. I suppose the next step is asking the Police department, or the city, or the State to get on board with some financing.  Or maybe just a computer programmer somewhere who wants to go a good deed and make things smooth for the next generation. Or if doing good things is not persuasive, maybe someone who just wants their code to take over the world. You want to talk about disruptive, explosive growth? Think about it, this is an App that should really come standard with every phone.This app is coming soon, who’s going to make it. Or make it well?</p>
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		<title>Punishment in Hawaii &#8211; Laws and Trends</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Marcus Landsberg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[   “We can and should do better. But “doing better” doesn’t mean simply focusing on social services and systemic reforms and ignoring the need for punishment. It means using punishment intelligently, which means using it as sparingly as possible but also as much as necessary.&#8221;&#8230;]]></description>
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<address style="padding-left: 60px;">“We can and should do better. But “doing better” doesn’t mean simply focusing on social services and systemic reforms and ignoring the need for punishment. It means using punishment intelligently, which means using it as sparingly as possible but also as much as necessary.&#8221;</address>
<h2>Punishment in Hawaii</h2>
<p>Punishment in Hawaii is heading the wrong direction, is an opinion I’ve long maintained. So when I woke up today to an article talking in depth about punishments that largely mirror my own views I was excited. Everyone I know in the system who takes time to talk to criminal defendants comes to one conclusion early on: To a person in prison, there’s not much difference between ten years and twenty years. It is all unforeseeable time to them. Quite frankly many of them are surprised to live as long as they have. When you grow up surrounded by gang members, prison is simply a stop on the road to expected early death.</p>
<p>So why do we insist on keeping our children in prisons until they become our fathers? Grandfathers?</p>
<p>No one is denying crime exists. Or that real crime deserves real corrective punishment. No one disagrees that when other people on our island hurt or steal or trespass against us they need to be taught, or re-taught, that such a thing is not allowed. Whether by fine, by community service, through classes and counseling, or through incarceration, talking softly only works when someone is carrying a big stick. A few days in the judicial system and you realize talking loud never works.</p>
<address style="padding-left: 60px;">`“Viewed from the perspective of deterrence, long prison terms are a bad bargain: The last 15 years of a 20-year prison sentence start five years from its beginning, a period distant enough to be beyond the planning horizon of the typical armed robber. And those long prison terms are no better viewed from the perspective of incapacitation—the purely mechanical effect of preventing crime by keeping the criminals locked up&#8230; Thanks to “three strikes” laws and absurdly long terms for drug dealing, the average prisoner is now in his (or, much more rarely, her) mid-30s while the average new crime is committed by someone in his early 20s. That’s a very costly mismatch.”</address>
<h2>Inherent Worth in the Criminal</h2>
<p>The first thing we have to agree upon is that there is some inherent worth to society of these incarcerated people. Let’s be very clear, we’re keeping them alive for a reason. If there is no inherent value to society in our inmates, they need to be killed. Period. We’re investing our time and dollars because we want something back from them. Maybe work, maybe intelligence, maybe just love and support for their families. So there is something there. And if there is something there, our next question is, how can we maximize the utility of whatever we want from them. How do we do that for punishment in Hawaii.</p>
<p>Is it locking them up until forever and a day? Well there’s different thoughts, let’s look at a couple:</p>
<h1>Different punishments in Hawaii</h1>
<h2 style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Prostitution and punishment in Hawaii</strong></h2>
<h3 style="padding-left: 60px;"><strong> Men</strong></h3>
<p><strong> </strong>I’ve talked all of us blue in the face with what I see as the problems with the proposed prostitution amendments and how they will over-punish for prostitution. About how they take a crime, being a John and want to increase the punishment ad nauseum. I’m slightly surprised no one has suggested thumbscrews yet for men so brash as to ask a woman, dressed for prostitution, how much she charges. Part of the question is what is the social utility of not only branding these men with the criminal seal, but also requiring them to miss 30 days of work, lose their job, lose their means of supporting their family, and have to explain to their children where they went.</p>
<p>Understand, this is not a deterrent unless they know about this. Know about this before they got drunk and stumbled back to a hotel and on the way back an attractive female dressed in sex approaches them and turns out to be an officer. And yes, that is quite a few cases, not the exception.</p>
<h3 style="padding-left: 60px;"><strong>Women</strong></h3>
<p>And remember equal protection and women’s rights? Every time you raise the penalty for men, guess what, you raise the penalty for women. And there is one thing law cannot do, erase the 2000 year old social stigma in Christian societies on the prostitute. These laws will have, at the top of every resume forever, a brand that says she carries a prostitution charge. And, when she gets out of jail, and the pimp is waiting, do we think he’s going to give her credit on 30 days of payments. She gets beaten to make up the money.</p>
<p>No one who asks to increase the penalty for prostitution has any compassion for prostitutes. Period.</p>
<h2><strong> New marijuana law and easing punishment in Hawaii.</strong></h2>
<p><img src="/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Marijuana-time.jpg" alt="Great Marijuana in Honolulu" title="Great Marijuana in Honolulu" class="rounded-all " /></p>
<p>Let’s talk about the opposite issue. Currently the debate in Hawaii is whether we decriminalize marijuana. The argument being that somehow people “getting away with” smoking marijuana is “getting one over” on society. But the question goes back to the basic utility of what should be allowed in America. Or more importantly, what should be allowed to stop your growth for the future. As if people who smoke marijuana, as minors, cannot grow up to be anything important.<br />
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/cpBzQI_7ez8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Of course they can. But should the failure to avoid arrest be enough to stop your admission to college, Harvard Law School, even  the Presidency? Hawaii’s movie in the right direction. Stop ending lives prematurely by marking people with a criminal conviction for something so manini.</p>
<h3><strong>The secret about most crimes:</strong></h3>
<p>“The progressive tendency is to fixate on the plight of those punished rather than the plight of those victimized, though of course these are often the same persons under different labels or at different moments.”</p>
<p>Ready for the secret? Almost all felony trials in Hawaii are over drugs. Very rarely do we see a case where the complainant is virgin white. People learn to be bullies by being bullied. People learn how to steal cars because someone who is successful at stealing cars shows them how to better their life. I became a lawyer because I watched a lawyer <a href="/about/">save my fathers life</a>.</p>
<h2> <strong>The Right direction: HOPE in Honolulu</strong></h2>
<p>At this point in the essay, I was thinking, Mark Kleiman would really like J. Alm’s HOPE program. And then I read the next paragraph:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;">“HOPE: The obvious (but hard-to-administer) common-sense alternative is to make the rules less numerous, the monitoring tighter, and the sanctions swift, certain, and reasonably mild, and to clearly tell each probationer and parolee exactly what the rules are and what exactly will happen, every time and right away, when a rule is broken. Mildness—or proportionality, if you like—is essential to making the threat credible, and severity turns out to be unnecessary. Experimental evidence from the HOPE program in Hawaii showed that <strong>two days in jail is as good a deterrent to drug use as six weeks</strong>, as long as the two days actually happen, and happen every time. We don’t know yet whether a day in jail, or a couple of hours in a holding cell, or a weekend of home confinement, or a week of a 9 p.m.-6 a.m. curfew, would do the trick, but we ought to learn.”</p>
<p>I wholly disagree with the idea that it is hard-to-administer less rules. In fact the situation is much easier than having every violation require a long complicated penalty. But the we can’t argue with the facts and the science. If we can get the same punishment from two days of jail that we can with six months of jail, keeping someone in jail for six months is not only inhumane, it minimizes social utility.  With luck HOPE will increase use across the island.</p>
<p><a title="Hope Probation how to" href="http://www.avvo.com/legal-guides/ugc/how-to-handle-your-hope-probation-hawaiis-opportunity-probation-with-enforcement" target="_blank">Read more about hope here</a></p>
<h1><strong>Let me close with a story.</strong></h1>
<p>Whenever we talk about proportionality and punishment in Hawaii I tell this story. Now, it’s a story about a loss, and I don’t normally tell those, but I’m honest as much as you can expect from a lawyer so I’m going to be honest about this one:</p>
<p>It was a harassment case, short, one hour trial that resulted from a domestic violence situation between a couple with two kids.  In the State of Hawaii, think of harassment like an “assault” where no one gets hurt. Just someone touches another person in a way they shouldn’t, pushes them out of the way or pokes them annoyingly. Like that.</p>
<p>Well the basic defense was, the guy just wanted to get into his car. The female wouldn’t move, he moved her out of the way. There was a question about how hard it was and whether it was warranted or not, but the when the judge brought down the gavel he said “<strong>GUILTY</strong>”. Man, I hate that word when I’m the defense attorney. And I was angry, <strong>I didn’t think he was guilty!</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center; padding-left: 60px;"><strong></strong><img src="/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/small-gavel.jpg" alt="Gavel Punishment in Hawaii" title="Gavel Punishment in Hawaii" class="rounded-all " /><strong><br />
</strong></p>
<p>But then the judge said something else, very quickly. “<strong>SENTENCE: $100.”</strong></p>
<p>“WHAT!” the Prosecutor and I both yelled out. A conviction for a case like this comes with jail time. He harassed the mother of his kids. We’ve been trained to expect at a minimum a week.</p>
<p>The Prosecutor went in “<em>Judge, we need jail. At a minimum anger management and domestic violence!</em>”</p>
<p>“Nah,” the Judge said, “He feels bad. It’s not going to happen again. It was just that one particular situation.”</p>
<p>And I thought to myself wow, I guess he is about one hundred dollars worth of guilty!</p>
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		<title>Solving Prostitution Part II</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus Landsberg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Update&#8230; This all started because I read a petition that used sensationalism over substance to achieve a visceral reaction to gain a signature for a petition. A member of the Pacific Alliance to Stop Slavery told me that he agrees with me that the law DOES undisputedly&#8230;]]></description>
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<h4 class="info-box-title rounded-top"><strong>Update&#8230;</strong></h4>
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<p>This all started because I read a petition that used sensationalism over substance to achieve a visceral reaction to gain a signature for a petition. A member of the Pacific Alliance to Stop Slavery told me that he agrees with me that the law <strong>DOES</strong> undisputedly contain a a way to detain juveniles without criminalizing them.</p>
<p>But <strong>that</strong> part of the petition remains unchanged. Which means they still choose pretty fiction over uncomfortable fact.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Earlier this week I sat down with the Pacific Alliance to Stop Slavery. After explaining everything to them, After their representative saying they AGREE with me on my point about the law, they amended a PART of their petition (to something that is still wrong). But the first sentence of their petition is still WHOLLY A LIE. It’s absolutely not true. I showed EXACTLY where in the law they can “detain juveniles without criminalizing them”, and they prefer to keep it as the lead in their petition. Probably because it is effective. It is only effective to people who don’t know what the law reads.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Basically there have three responses once they are made aware:</p>
<ol style="list-style-type: decimal;">
<ol style="list-style-type: decimal;">
<ol style="list-style-type: decimal;">
<li style="text-align: justify;">“Marcus, we won’t change it because you read the law wrong. HERE IS WHY you read the law wrong, HERE IS WHERE the law says something different than what you say.”</li>
<li style="text-align: justify;">“Marcus, you read the law right, so we will change the petition to be intellectually honest.”</li>
<li style="text-align: justify;">“Marcus, its a great pitch, why should we change it?</li>
</ol>
</ol>
</ol>
<p>Guess which they’re going with so far? Change it to be honest with the people you’re attempting to convince. They’ll quote you, they’ll then get corrected. Then they’ll blame you for leading them on..</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">(and the one edit they did make is wrong, here is the correct chart of the park closure vs. prostitution punishments:)</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter" src="http://808crime.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/wpid-548666_457289240975801_310775165_n-2012-10-5-00-30.jpg" alt="wpid-548666_457289240975801_310775165_n-2012-10-5-00-30.jpg" width="358" height="162" /></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Intellectually disingenuous.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span id="more-2148"></span>As a good lawyer friend of mine wrote me, “Even if it did have the same penalty as sleeping in the park, how’re they going to feel when they succeed and it has the same sentence as putting the wrong sticker on your taxi cab!”</p>
<p><strong>The Pacific Alliance to Stop Slavery Update</strong><br />
At the end of the last blog post I put something of a challenge I suppose, to PASS to contact me if they truly wanted to have a conversation to solve the issue of Prostitution in the state of Hawaii. One person, who I assume is a member but seemed to be a head of a different, unrelated, lobbying group came to my office and met with me for about an hour and a half. The conversation was nothing if not overly cordial, everyone very apologetic meaning not to step on toes.</p>
<p>I left the meeting learning a number of things about this group. This is my impressions, and again, I hope they prove me wrong:</p>
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<li><strong>Their passion for the topic has not driven them to learn about the topic </strong>&#8211; And to be clear, I don’t mean to learn about statistics or backgrounds about prostitution itself, clearly they know that. But they’ve done nothing to research criminal law or penal theory. They seem to not even read the law themselves sometimes. Understand this: <em>It appears they don’t even read the laws they’re trying to change</em>.</li>
<li><strong>They seem to think laws are the answer</strong> &#8212; The government may not be the best answer to this problem. Instantly helping exploited people who naturally don’t trust the government (especially if they’re from a country for whom “government” is synonymous with “winning gang”), vesting all control in the government may be wrongheaded. An NGO with the proper thrust may be a better solution.</li>
<li><strong>They have a problem with language</strong> &#8212; They insist on using “trafficking”, when <span style="text-decoration: underline;">their</span> meaning of trafficking is AT BEST the third definition <span style="text-decoration: underline;">you</span> associate with that word. They insist on using “slavery”, which places them in the double bind of competing with and comparing to the middle passage, Dred Scott, and multiple wars that tore our country at its very soul. Using the word “prostitution” or “exploitation” are both just as descriptive and not nearly as loaded towards a incongruent meaning.</li>
<li>Most importantly, <strong>They believe what they want to believe </strong>&#8211; When the prosecutors tell them that certain laws mean certain things, they don’t check into it, they take it as gospel. When the prosecutors tell them certain statistics or certain ideas they seem to decide that those are inflated/suppressed and investigate more. Compare this to the Police Detective with the suspect who makes eleven hours of statements saying he didn’t do something, and the final hour agreeing with the Detective that he did. Guess which statement goes in the police report. Think it doesn’t happen? Check out Jessie Miskelley and the West Memphis Three. Twenty years on Death Row, largely because the police didn’t believe the denials but chose to believe the confession; because the police wrote the confession. They accept answers they want to accept, when it matches their desire.</li>
<li>I also think there might only be one or two people in the <strong>“group”</strong>. And while their one-sentence mission is powerful, the rest of the essay is paper thin.</li>
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<p><strong>The conversation</strong><br />
But to be very clear, it was a nice happy conversation. During the conversations I made some suggestions for what I think would help prosecute the crime of prostitution in the State of Hawaii, but that’s just me. Rather than let these vanish to our conversation, I wanted to put these out in the ether, and maybe a city councilperson can steal it and make something good with it.</p>
<p>This post is going to veer away from my usual topic, how great I am, and veer more into sentencing policy. What should a people think about when they’re setting a sentence.</p>
<div class="bar-info-box bar-info-box-3 rounded-all">Serious about your goal: <strong>Study it!</strong></div>
<p><strong>Changing individuals, changing society</strong><br />
First and foremost thing to remember: <strong>Punishment does not change behavior, <em>Fear</em> of punishment changes behavior</strong>.<br />
Think about children you see and children you know. It is the ones who are threatened, or who get spanked only once in a great while that are best behaved. The children that are spanked for anything? Often the worst behaved. Why? It’s not the cycle of crime or violence. It is because the children that face punishment for everything, know there is no way to fix their behavior. Facing the inevitability of punishment there is no benefit to acting correctly. The outcome is the same. It is the <em>fear </em>of punishment (actually, fear of pain/discomfort, and punishment is controlled pain/discomfort) that causes beings to change their behavior.<br />
As I explained to the representative of PASS, Increasing the penalty means nothing to the John, because they’re not afraid of the penalty, they feel they won’t get arrested. Increasing the threat of a subsequent penalty means everything to a john, because now you know exactly what is expected from you, and how real the punishment is.</p>
<p>Think of it like this: States with the death penalty do not have lower crime rates. People don’t say, “well, I would kill him, but that’s life in prison, so cause massive injury, and do 20”. People commit the crime and then regret the punishment.</p>
<p><strong>The Goal</strong>: I still am a little suspicious about the true goal of the Pacific Alliance to Stop Slavery. I really think it is to somehow get <em>revenge</em> on “johns”. This is not meant to be an attack, but it is based on how they handle their business and what they promote. My gut feeling is that actually repairing the prostitutes is a second place goal to punishing the johns involved. I explained to them, as I do to you now, my goal is to make life <em>safe</em> for the prostitutes, and I mean that in every way.</p>
<p><em><strong>My main question to the person I met was this: “How is the law you’re promoting meant to help the girl you’re trying to protect.”</strong></em> i.e., how does a law that punishes Men worse stop an abusive John? How does it help that prostituted female receive medical or protective services from the government? It really doesn’t. But if that is what you’re concentrating your time on, what is your real goal? No matter what you’re stated goals are.</p>
<div class="bar-info-box bar-info-box-3 rounded-all">So here is my <strong>Suggested solutions</strong></div>
<p>The first suggestion is <strong>Prostitution Court</strong>: Heard of Drug Court? We copied it and flipped it and went with girls court and soon to be announced Veteran’s court. Why not Prostitutes court. If you’ve completed prostitution court, your record becomes clean, and you’ve complete all the services that guarantee you’ll never do that again. Model it on Drug court. Solved. Women receive services they need, and once they complete those services they do not carry a conviction on their record.<br />
Doesn’t this sound closer to the stated goal of <em>helping trafficked women</em>?</p>
<p><strong>John School:</strong><br />
For the Johns, the End Demand is really about the dumbest bill I’ve heard of it awhile. From top to bottom, it is based on lies and does nothing to actually help prostitutes. Nothing. What it does is make a navy guy walking down the street with his buddies who yells at a passing streetwalker, “Hey, how much are YOU!” IT makes him face a stiffer sentence, destroys his career, and why? You tell me.</p>
<p>Instead of juicing up the penalty to the point where every John has to pay defense attorney a small mint, instead give them a chance to take it off their record. “What what WHAT!” I hear the members of PASS explode. Here’s why: The way they take it off their record is by attending “John School”. And guess who gets to set the criteria. How about the Pacific Alliance to Stop Slavery? Sounds about right&#8230;</p>
<p>Remember what we said, <em>Punishment</em> does not change behavior, <em>fear</em> of punishment does. So the MOST important question in changing these laws is asking “Where is the <em>fear</em> coming from”. Because wherever that is, that is what is going to get the most attention from the John. If you juice the penalty, the <em>fear</em> is coming from the trial and the judge and the guilty verdict and they’ll spend their time and money to answer to fight the case. If the <em>fear </em>can be alleviated through erasing the conviction to the successful graduate through the proposed “John School” diversion program. Guess where ALL the energy goes, passing, learning and PARTICIPATING in the John School. And of course only once, if you’re likely to recommit no way do you get special dispensation.</p>
<p>Fear of the rod is a much better rod than the rod itself.</p>
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<p><strong>Decriminalization:</strong></p>
<p><strong></strong>But by far, the most important point is that as long as a prostitute cannot be honest with a doctor about her job. As long as she cannot be honest with the police without admitting to a crime. As long as these things happen, you will almost never get her pimps. (They define a separate word as &#8220;abolition&#8221; on their website. It is a creative straw-man definition battle which is not relevant to this conversation.) Because:</p>
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<li>She has to expose herself to jail to get medical care.</li>
<li>She has to expose herself to jail to get social services or police protection.</li>
<li>If she gets immunity to help get the pimp, she is immediately suspect, because she is functionally saving her own butt from jail to incarcerate the pimp. Questionable motives is the #1 reason to disbelieve a witness! (I just made that up. But I’m sure it’s top five.)</li>
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<p>So if your stated goal is to get a prostitute health care and social services or police protection or to get the actual traffickors rather than the traffickees, why are you not fighting the ONE thing that stands in the way of your stated goal?</p>
<p>The usual answer is because the stated goal is not the actual goal. The actual goal seems to be to punish men.<br />
As my father would say, listen to what people say but let it go in one ear and out the other. It’s what they do that tells you who they are.</p>
<p>With any luck the next post in the series will be the final one, collecting various reactions I got from the community about my engagement with PASS about prostitution and human trafficking. I never meant for this to be a serious, simply an example of when 30 minutes of real legal research could do. (Honestly, more like 10 minutes). If you have something related to this you’d like me to say or read, please feel free, as always, to post below or mail it to me and I will keep it confidential.</p>
<p>And as always I invite PASS to respond, to any of the criticism, here, or if they feel more comfortable, they can address it in a forum they control. Or they can ignore it.<br />
Or hell, let’s get two podiums and an audience. I feel froggy…</p>
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		<title>Pacific Alliance to Stop Slavery &#8211; Landsberg Law Office</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus Landsberg</dc:creator>
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I read something on a friend’s webpage today, a friend who I trust and respect to use the brain and best judgment. And when I read it, it literally blew my mind.</p></blockquote>
<h2><strong>I. Here is where I lose friends.</strong></h2>
<p>What I’m talking about is a petition by the Pacific Alliance to Stop Slavery, read it first here: <a href="http://www.change.org/petitions/pass-safe-harbor-end-demand-for-prostitution-laws-in-hawaii">http://www.change.org/petitions/pass-safe-harbor-end-demand-for-prostitution-laws-in-hawaii</a>. Read that first for the context. I don’t think I’ve thought this hard about potential new laws since the Food Truck mess. I would point out, after my post on Bill 59 (still one of the most popular posts on my minor webpage) Tulsi Gabbard took the bill back into committee and made pretty much 100% of the changes I advocated. This is tough love. I post this to help you.</p>
<p>After reading that petition and reviewing the<strong> PASS &#8211; PACIFIC ALLIANCE TO STOP SLAVERY</strong> webpage, I immediately reached out through the network of professionals I deal with everyday in the Juvenile justice system. The network includes Prosecutors and Defense attorneys; their experiences and their contacts, including actual cases and Probation Officers. The juvenile justice system in Hawaii is confidential, meaning I can’t betray names or individual cases, but I can talk about specifics using generalities to explain particular points. I’ve also written about the juvenile justice system here before. I have also been published in the Star-Advertiser with my views on the Juvenile justice system.</p>
<h2><strong>II. The Pacific Alliance to Stop Slavery Petition:</strong></h2>
<p>The very first sentence of that above webpage reads: “Currently, Hawaii has no protocol to legally detain juveniles rescued from prostitution without criminalizing them.” The first sentence is the first misstatement of the law.<br />
<a href="http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol12_Ch0501-0588/HRS0571/HRS_0571-0031.htm">Hawaii Revised Statute 571-31 “Taking Children into custody; release; Notice;”</a> reads<span id="more-2104"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>“(a) A child may be taken into custody by any police officer without order of the judge when there are reasonable grounds to believe that a child comes within section 571-11(1) or (2)…”</p></blockquote>
<p>So next we look at <a href="http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol12_Ch0501-0588/HRS0571/HRS_0571-0011.htm">Hawaii Revised Statute 571-11(1) and (2</a>). Now it’s true, 571-11(1) is about criminal offenses. Only subsection (2) reads:</p>
<blockquote><p>(2) Concerning any child living or found within the circuit:</p>
<p>(A) Who is neglected as to or deprived of educational services because of the failure of any person or agency to exercise that degree of care for which it is legally responsible;<br />
(B) Who is beyond the control of the child&#8217;s parent or other custodian or <strong>whose behavior is injurious to the child&#8217;s own or others&#8217; welfare</strong>;<br />
(C) Who is neither attending school nor receiving educational services required by law whether through the child&#8217;s own misbehavior or nonattendance or otherwise; or<br />
(D) Who is in violation of curfew;</p></blockquote>
<p>So which of these categories does a child prostitute fall into? I would suggest <strong>all</strong> of them.</p>
<h3><strong>Never mind that the reason for the petition is false, what is the Pacific Alliance to Stop Slavery really requesting?</strong></h3>
<p>The Pacific Alliance to Stop Slavery is asking for a “Safe Harbor Bill” which, without defining the actual words in the law, the goal is suggested to “give minors immunity from prosecution and refer these victimized children to proper rehabilitative and healing services rather than to incarceration.”<br />
The Pacific Alliance to Stop Slavery will be glad to know, then, that the proper rehabilitative and healing services rather than incarceration is already the goal.<a href="http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol12_Ch0501-0588/HRS0571/HRS_0571-0001.htm">Hawaii Revised Statute 571-1 Construction and purpose of chapter</a> reads in part:</p>
<blockquote><p>[I]t shall be a policy and purpose of said courts to promote the reconciliation of distressed juveniles with their families, foster the rehabilitation of juveniles in difficulty, render appropriate punishment to offenders, and reduce juvenile delinquency. The court shall conduct all proceedings to the end that no adjudication by the court of the status of any child under this chapter shall be deemed a conviction; no such adjudication shall impose any civil disability ordinarily resulting from conviction; no child shall be found guilty or be deemed a criminal by reason of such adjudication; no child shall be charged with crime or be convicted in any court except as otherwise provided in this chapter; and all children found responsible for offenses shall receive dispositions that provide incentive for reform or deterrence from further misconduct, or both.</p></blockquote>
<p>Let’s go slower and start with the last part first:<br />
“Proper Rehabilitative and healing services” equal “foster the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">rehabilitation</span> of juveniles in difficulty” and “all children found responsible for offenses shall receive dispositions that provide <span style="text-decoration: underline;">incentive to reform or deterrence from further misconduct”</span>.</p>
<p>Now to be clear, there is no “immunity from prosecution” in the law right now. But what is in the law? There is an immunity from <span style="text-decoration: underline;">conviction</span>. The legislature wanted to impress this so much, they say it the same way <span style="text-decoration: underline;">at least</span> four different ways. PASS completely misses this distinction with a difference. How would immunity from Prosecution be different to immunity from conviction? I’m not sure <em>in toto</em>. But an important question to ask is, “Is there ever a time you would WANT to prosecute a juvenile prostitute.</p>
<p>When I posed this question to my contacts, I received an answer from a juvenile probation officer via transmitted message, with a resounding “of course”. We’re talking about girls who are 16, 17, about to be 18. Potentially with multiple prior contacts with the system, would you want them to taste what being convicted as an adult would be like? <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Without</span> actually being convicted like an adult? I would suggest that you would agree, “of course”! No one is using HYCF as a punitive measure. It is actually very functional as a rehabilitative measure. This suggestion of “immunity” would take a tool away from the family courts in dealing with retraining girls to escape their pimps, absolutely not add to it. Under current law the Prosecutor has every right to elect to prosecute or NOT prosecute each case. When Prosecution is a useful tool to teach, they can prosecute, when it is not, the Prosecutor can pass.</p>
<p>So PASS wants you to encourage the legislature to reform in the law, based on falsehood, to something the law already includes. Interesting petition.</p>
<h2><strong>III. But that’s not all</strong></h2>
<p>So of while the first part of this petition is about ending childhood prostitution and ex-slavery, the petition then conflates another issue and talks about an “End Demand Bill.” Again based on a falsehood and again a horrible idea (at least as presented in context of this petition). Let’s start with the falsehood and then move on to two amazing reasons why this is a horrible idea.</p>
<p>Their statement: “The existing penalty for johns is a petty misdemeanor, equivalent to the fine of riding a bicycle on the sidewalk.” Here’s my understanding of the law (and I’ve done full jury trials quoting bicycle laws):<br />
<a href="http://www1.honolulu.gov/council/ocs/roh/rohchapter15a1020.pdf">Honolulu Revised Ordinance Sec. 15-8.7 Riding on Sidewalks</a>: Actually, it’s only in certain circumstances you cannot ride a bicycle on the sidewalk, in most of the island you absolutely can ride on the sidewalk. Okay, let’s say you are in those certain parts of the island where you can’t (i.e., Downtown, Waikiki, etc), the real issue here is, what is the penalty? The best penalty statute I can find is <a href="http://www1.honolulu.gov/council/ocs/roh/rohchapter15a2127.pdf">Honolulu Revised Ordinance Sec. 15- 26.9 Unspecified penalty and administrative fine</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>“(b) Every person who violates any provision of this traffic code for which another penalty is not provided shall, for a first offense thereof, be fined not less than $15.00, but not more than $100.00; for a second offense committed within one year after the date of the first offense, the person shall be fined not less than $15.00, but not more than $200.00.”</p></blockquote>
<p>So not only is this <span style="text-decoration: underline;">not</span> a petty misdemeanor but also the maximum penalty is $100. So let’s turn to prostitution:<br />
<a href="http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol14_Ch0701-0853/HRS0712/HRS_0712-1200.htm">Hawaii Revised Statute 712-1200 Prostitution</a> in its Penalty clauses state:</p>
<blockquote><p>a mandatory fine of $500 and the person may be sentenced to a term of imprisonment of not more than thirty days or probation. For any subsequent offense, a mandatory fine of $500 and a term of imprisonment of thirty days or probation, without possibility of deferral of further proceedings pursuant to chapter 853 and without possibility of suspension of sentence.</p></blockquote>
<h3><strong>I don’t know a single other statute that has a mandatory thirty day jail period for a second offense</strong>.</h3>
<p>Not one in the whole of the law. As far as chapter 853 Deferral on prostitution in Hawaii, the explanation of that is outside the scope of this article, but what I would explain is this. For any other charge of this magnitude, charges may be expunged within one year after the deferral period but for prostitution it is <span style="text-decoration: underline;">four</span> years after the expiration of the deferral period. Again, a very strict penalty.</p>
<p>But let’s go back to the original statement: Is it true, is the penalty for the offense “equivalent to riding a bicycle on the sidewalk.” Here&#8217;s your comparison chart:</p>
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<h3>Violation</h3>
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<li>
<div class="price-tag"><span class="price-value">Bicycle</span><span class="price-period">on the sidewalk:</span></div>
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</ul>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>First time minimum:</strong> $15.00</li>
</ul>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>First time maximum:</strong> $100.00</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www1.honolulu.gov/council/ocs/roh/rohchapter15a2127.pdf" class="button rounded-all">Read the law yourself:</a></li>
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<div class="price-column price-column-spring-blue price-column-featured rounded-all">
<h3 class="rounded-top">Petty Misdemeanor</h3>
<ul>
<ul>
<li>
<div class="price-tag"><span class="price-value big">Prostitution</span></div>
</li>
</ul>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>First time minimum:</strong> $500.00</li>
</ul>
<div></div>
<div></div>
<div></div>
<ul>
<li><strong>First time maximum:</strong> $1000.00 and 30 days IN JAIL.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol14_Ch0701-0853/HRS0712/HRS_0712-1200.htm" class="button rounded-all">Read the law yourself</a></li>
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<p>This is how PASS sells you an emotion on false facts. If Republicans used facts like this, it would be on the Jon Stewart show.<br />
To steal the phrasing of the Pacific Alliance to Stop Slavery, untruth anywhere is a threat to truth everywhere. Really, I think if they would just depend on honest representations of the current law, they would have much more credibility.</p>
<p>Except their solutions, while well-meaning, shows they have no understanding of sentencing science OR the judicial system. Let me address how these relate to the “End Demand Bill” both in turn. Keep in mind, the “End Demand Bill” has absolutely nothing to do with child prostitution as mentioned in the first paragraph of the petition.</p>
<h3><strong>Why the “End Demand Bill” is a dumb idea</strong></h3>
<p>We have to put aside first the constitutional equal protection argument here: “You’re making something illegal for men which is not illegal for women.” How would the directors of PASS feel if we switched genders on that argument?</p>
<p>Putting that aside, increasing penalties for a first offense has a pretty negligible effect on crimes of this type.</p>
<div class="info-box info-box-1 rounded-all">
<h4 class="info-box-title rounded-top">A selection of three articles on the topic:</h4>
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<p>
<a href="http://bauersteven.blogspot.com/2010/09/why-deterrence-has-minimal-impact.html">Why Deterrence Has Minimal Impact</a><br />
<a href="http://crime.about.com/od/prevent/a/deterrence.htm">Do Stiffer Sentences Act as a Crime Deterrent?</a><br />
<a href="http://rss.sagepub.com/content/2/3/255.abstract">Penalty has no Impact on Crime:<br />
A Game-Theoretic Analysis</a></p>
<p>There’s a hundred more.</p>
</div>
</div>
<p>Also note that when deterrence is effected by punishment, it seems to be property and violent crimes that are effected, but not violent sexual crimes at all.<br />
<a href="http://www.freakonomics.com/2012/09/18/how-to-cut-prison-costs-without-driving-up-crime/">How to Cut Prison Costs Without Driving Up Crime?</a></p>
<p>I haven’t found an article that directly addresses the affect of punishment on prostitution but the general result of a survey of these articles is this: There must be knowledge of the higher penalty, and usually knowledge of the threat of a higher penalty impacts both recidivism and deterrence. A higher penalty by its lonesome does nothing. The three strikes law affects people in California because after their first strike, they realize that they may soon qualify for that sentencing enhancement.<br />
But remember when we talked about the penalties for Prostitution, that graduated sentencing scheme, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">it is in the law now</span>. Basically, if you get convicted of a second offense, as a a John, you get 30 days minimum jail, no suspension, do not pass Go, do not collect $200. <strong>Maximum. Jail. Now.</strong></p>
<p>So the only goal would be to increase the level of the penalty, and that is what they do <strong>not </strong>want to do, whether they realize it or not because what comes with a full misdemeanor or felony everyone?</p>
<h3><strong>Jury trial</strong></h3>
<p>Based on the Hawaii State constitution and Supreme Court Jurisprudence any criminal charge punishable by 6 months or more in jail gives the Defendant a right to a jury trial. This is the last thing the Pacific Alliance to Stop Slavery wants, but they do realize it yet. More jury trials means less convictions. Period.</p>
<p>Let me switch gears and inform the casual reader quickly how most Johns are arrested. They are arrested through Sting operations, through <a href="http://craigslist.org">craigslist.org</a>, <a href="http://www.backpage.com">backpage.com</a>, and walking the streets at night. A police officer has to dress and act as a prostitute in order to catch a John. Therefore the Number one defense to prostitution is <a href="http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol14_Ch0701-0853/HRS0702/HRS_0702-0237.htm">Entrapment</a>. For entrapment to exist, the fact-finder basically has to agree that the police officer had to employ methods of persuasion or inducement which create a substantial risk that the offense would be committed by persons other than those who are ready to commit it. Right now, the fact-finder is a judge, a judge who will say, “The officer did what they were told to do, I believe the officer. Guilty. Sentence.”<br />
With a jury trial, you now have twelve angry men asking everything from, “Why didn’t the police record the conversation?” They never do, in spite of having recorders, in spite of us all having recorders on their cell phone; to “What method of persuasion did the officer pull to get him to say yes?” In fear of me sounding sexist, I think it is real that juries may reject certain police officers modes of dress, manners, types of ads on the internet, and especially certain tactics, i.e. “How about me and my friend” (Which seems very popular recently); even “Do I really believe the officer that the John said that?”</p>
<p>By creating a right to a jury trial, you will lower the number of convictions. Period. A jury will be much more likely to embrace an entrapment defense in a sting operation than a single judge in district court. If that is what you are really fighting for, be prepared for a lot of people to walk free until the Morals division steps their report writing and skills to the level of the other Felony police divisions.</p>
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<h4 class="info-box-title rounded-top"><strong>Addendum: Penalties for Johns in Child Prostitution in Honolulu</strong></h4>
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<p>
<strong>Just to be clear:</strong><br />
<a href="http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol14_Ch0701-0853/HRS0707/HRS_0707-0730.htm">Under 14 years of age, up to a 20 year sentence.</a><br />
<a href="http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/vol14_Ch0701-0853/HRS0707/HRS_0707-0732.htm">Under 16 years of age, up to a 5 year sentence.</a></h3>
<p>Both already on the books
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<h2><strong>IV. So what does it hurt?</strong></h2>
<p>So someone else told me, they support the law, what does it hurt?</p>
<p>I would suggest anytime you petition your legislature, based on lies or misunderstandings, to do things that will probably hurt your true cause, you might be making a mistake. You hurt the underlying credibility of your organization, your real cause, and make people healthily skeptical of your goals.</p>
<p>Especially when this is an underrepresented population that needs support. Just do it honestly.</p>
<p>The problem is any legislator who reads a petition that starts with “The law does not contain __blank__” takes one of two actions, 1) either they already know whether the law contains __blank__, or 2) turns to an aid and says “Find out if the law contains __blank__”. As soon as they find out “It’s right there, in the basic jurisdictional statute” there’s no reason to read the petition any more. Instantly the rest of it loses credibility.<br />
OR, they act on the petition, announce it for reading in front of the assembly, and immediately everybody else in the body, the gallery, and the news media (let alone the judiciary) says “What are they talking about, that law is already in the basic jurisdictional statute.”</p>
<p>You don’t get to teach the class before you finish your homework. I can’t say I’ve studied prostitution or its ills or its ill effects on society or the girls who are trapped in it. I have studied the law. This petition is wrongheaded.</p>
<p>_______________________</p>
<p>I want to be very clear, I’m sure the Pacific Alliance to Stop Slavery is well-intentioned. I certainly agree with parts of their goal. But if you’re looking to make the world a better place, be very careful that your unintended circumstances don’t make things worse.</p>
<blockquote><p>I would like this page to act as the <a href="http://SNOPES.com">SNOPES.com</a> of the claims that the Pacific Alliance to Stop Slavery makes. If you google their petition, you can read the facts here. It’s not about “hearing both sides”, I’m not on the opposite side. I don’t have a horse in this race, although I’m sure simply by challenging the methods I will be perceived as an enemy of the goals. I believe in the truth and more importantly, improving the justice system. If they want to speak to me to help them focus their efforts on useful legislation, I would love to help achieve some of their true goals, but the proper way.</p></blockquote>
<p>And for chrissakes, if you’re going to make points based on the law, at least read the law!</p>
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		<title>Announcing the Honolulu Roadblock Map!</title>
		<link>http://808crime.com/2012/09/13/announcing-the-honolulu-roadblock-map/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 05:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Marcus Landsberg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today we hit, and surpassed, 250 Facebook likes! So, to thank all of you who have been such good fans and customers, we accelerated the schedule on our next big web update and decided to announce early our latest contribution to the Hawaii legal community.&#8230;]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today we hit, and surpassed,<a href="http://Facebook.com/HawaiiLawyer"> 250 Facebook likes</a>!</p>
<p>So, to thank all of you who have been such good fans and customers, we accelerated the schedule on our next big web update and decided to announce early our latest contribution to the Hawaii legal community.</p>
<p>We spent our time collating and organizing the map of the Honolulu Police Department&#8217;s Roadblocks and Speeding Operations.  The purpose of this map is to allow you to see, graphically, where the Honolulu Police Department have been concentrating their traffic arrests.</p>
<p>Plan ahead to avoid the roadblocks and speed traps. This will not tell you all of them, but it will definitely tell you where the police have made traffic stops before. On some corners in excess of 100 speeding stops in a short period of time.</p>
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		<title>Juvenile Cases in Honolulu</title>
		<link>http://808crime.com/2012/08/06/juvenile-cases-in-honolulu/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 11:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Marcus Landsberg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your office phone rings just as you were about to begin a project. It&#8217;s the principal from your child&#8217;s school saying that your son or daughter has been arrested. Then they go forward and explain one of three things: 1. A scenario describing your son&#8230;]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your office phone rings just as you were about to begin a project. It&#8217;s the principal from your child&#8217;s school saying that your son or daughter has been arrested. Then they go forward and explain one of three things:</p>
<p>1. A scenario describing your son as the most horrible black-hearted monster that you&#8217;ve never met and cannot imagine.</p>
<p>2. A school day prank that would&#8217;ve rated no more than an afternoon in the principal&#8217;s office during the days we went to school.</p>
<p>3. The scariest of all: nothing. Just come down. The juvenile police have some questions they want to ask you.</p>
<p>The problem with the juvenile system is that the case can follow your child, even past when they become an adult. It is important, from the earliest stages, to have someone who can explain the system to you, to minimize the trauma that is guaranteed to occur.</p>
<div class="title">Recent Juvenile Arrests</div>
<p><span id="more-1934"></span>Recently here at the Landsberg Law Office we&#8217;ve received an influx of calls relating to Juvenile arrests.</p>
<div class="two-third"><em>When one father with a good job and number of kids who&#8217;ve never been in trouble called me for help with his 12 year old, I was concerned. Turned out this young boy was being accused as a potential rapist, to be labeled as a sex offender for life. The parents described what had been told to them, and it was pretty much a game of truth or dare. The type of game we&#8217;re not allowed to play, but we all played anyway.</em></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><em>And then the boy walks in, the cutest little mop-topped blonde boy. Might have well been the youngest child on &#8220;Eight is Enough&#8221;. And the boy wouldn&#8217;t stop crying. He was deathly afraid. Could not at all talk about what happened on that day. You do this job long enough you know when people are lying or hiding something from you. This boy was hiding something, but it wasn&#8217;t because he was lying it was because of the psychological trauma he went through:</em></p>
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<p><em>For the rest of his life, he will also associate touching a breast with being taken by strangers with handcuffs to Detention Home (Juvenile Hall). No matter what happened to his case he will have an unhealthy distrust of females, of police, potentially of authority. Luckily we were able to discuss with the prosecutors the real situation around the game, and no charges were filed. Hopefully he can heal soon with his family.</em></p>
<p><em></em>In another case, we had to proceed to trial, and won, for a boy playing with a group of boys who were punching each other in the testicles. They called it a  &#8221;man check&#8221;. I remember calling it a &#8220;cup check&#8221;. Now the State of Hawaii tried  to call it Assault in the Third degree.</p>
<div class="title">Information you can use</div>
<p>Recently, the juvenile justice system of New York put together a comic book that tries to explain how the Juvenile system works.  <strong>It&#8217;s not EXACTLY the way the system works in Honolulu, but it&#8217;s close enough.</strong> It contains most of the right steps and much of the right process. Look at this comic, it&#8217;s made for children but you can decide if your child is mature enough to understand the process.</p>
<p>If you need further information, don&#8217;t be afraid to contact the Landsberg Law Office, let&#8217;s see what we can do.</p>
<div class="bar-info-box bar-info-box-1 rounded-all"><strong>Send an email for the comic!</strong><a href="mailto:LandsbergLegal@gmail.com" class="button-big rounded-all">Now!</a></div>
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		<title>Lawyer Headlines in Honolulu DUI</title>
		<link>http://808crime.com/2012/07/01/lawyer-headlines-in-honolulu-dui/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 10:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Marcus Landsberg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had the most wonderful visitors in my office last week.  After visiting during my one-year anniversary party, Nonstop Honolulu Online Entertainment and Hawaii: In Real Life decided to do a profile of me.  During my time helping out the food trucks I got to know Melissa Chang&#8230;]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the most wonderful visitors in my office last week.  After visiting during my one-year anniversary party, <strong><a href="http://www.nonstophonolulu.com/">Nonstop Honolulu Online Entertainment</a></strong> and <strong><a href="http://www.hawaiiIRL.com/">Hawaii: In Real Life</a></strong> decided to do a profile of me.  During my time helping out the food trucks I got to know <a href="http://www.twitter.com/melissa808">Melissa Chang</a> and <a href="http://www.twitter.com/parkrat">Russ Sumida</a> through another attorney I commonly associate with, <a href="http://hawaiiesquire.wordpress.com/">Ryan K. Hew Esq</a>., and they all became familiar with my work. After speaking to a couple of the people I defended, and getting to see me speak before the City Council, they decided I needed to be one of the local businesses they profile in their online magazine every week.</p>
<p>For me, even being considered to stand with the ranks of local businesses like <strong><a href="http://www.leonardshawaii.com/">Leonard&#8217;s Bakery</a>, <a href="http://brasserieduvin.com/">Brasserie Du Vin</a></strong>, and <strong><a href="http://www.hankshautedogs.com/">Hank&#8217;s Haute Dogs</a></strong> is a humbling experience.  I also appreciate the crew stepping out of the regular comfort zone of restaurants and retail, to profile a business that so many people want to divert with the joke &#8220;well, I hope I never need your services&#8221;.  So I kind of chuckled and stumbled my way through two videos, both of which went almost double overtime.</p>
<div class="bar-info-box bar-info-box-1 rounded-all"><strong>Read the profile!</strong> Click here-&gt;<a href="http://www.nonstophonolulu.com/blogs/urbanmixplate/hawaii-in-real-life-landsberg-law/" class="button-big rounded-all">Nonstop!</a></div>
<div id="attachment_1885" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 575px"><img class="size-full wp-image-1885" title="HGN Horizontal Gaze Nystagmus" src="http://808crime.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/HGN-Horizontal-Gaze-Nystagmus.jpg" alt="" width="565" height="306" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Look at the tip of my pen, don&#39;t move your head. -- Horizontal Gaze Nystagmus</p></div>
<p>The first video is something we could do quick and easy.  DUI is something I&#8217;ve been doing for years, and it is always fun to sit around and give each other the Field Sobriety Test. Actually, while reviewing the tape, I think I might&#8217;ve changed Melissa&#8217;s score (I noticed a couple extra clues I missed because I was thinking about the camera.  She&#8217;s lucky she got away with a warning!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the video with the DUI test:</p>
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<p>And here&#8217;s the video with us just talking. Mainly just explaining the story about how a lawyer used the law to save my family&#8217;s lives. The inspiration behind me going to law school and moving up. Also, it&#8217;s one of the few times I <strong>think</strong> you might actually be able to tell I&#8217;m nervous.  Usually I&#8217;m much better at hiding it!</p>
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<div> Now to update both the <a href="/dui/">DUI</a> pages of the website as well as the <a href="/press/">Press</a> sections of the website. And while this is a great way to start July, be careful out there. The Honolulu Star-Advertiser just updated their breaking news with this:</div>
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<div>For more frequent updates, follow us on twitter, Melissa Chang says!</div>
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		<title>True Hustler For Real &#8212; Choices</title>
		<link>http://808crime.com/2012/06/18/true-hustler-for-real-choices/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Marcus Landsberg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s hard to write a response blog to a statement no one can ever hear, but I got to work in my favorite rap video of all time before the end, so at least part of this worked! You know that I&#8217;m a hustler for&#8230;]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: left;">It&#8217;s hard to write a response blog to a statement no one can ever hear, but I got to work in my favorite rap video of all time before the end, so at least part of this worked!</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>You know that I&#8217;m a hustler for real so you know I got the stolen bus pass.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I met for the first time a true hustler today.  He needed transportation, all he had was a set and nothing to lose.  He took an edged weapon and held it up to the little white boy.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">&#8220;Choices&#8221; she said.  That was the theme of the lady&#8217;s speech to the young Defendant I was defending.  &#8221;You have all the choices in the world, and you chose to hold a knife to my son and threaten him.</p>
<p>Choices, she repeated thirty times.</p>
<p>Her son, for example, had chosen to play Lacrosse.</p>
<p>My defendant, a child of 15, hadn&#8217;t &#8220;chosen&#8221; to play Lacrosse? In fact he hadn&#8217;t even heard of Lacrosse. His father chuckled to me after everything, &#8220;How do you play Lacrosse, anyway?&#8221; Choices.</p>
<p>When he was younger he had a choice, either get beat up every single day, or join the gang, Halawa Mob.</p>
<p>When he was 12 he had the option, get beat up every single day, or smoke ice for the first time. How&#8217;s that choice?</p>
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<p> <img src="/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/800px-UniversityHSLosAngeles.jpg" alt="Prison?" title="Prison?" class="rounded-all " /> <img src="/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/fae2db36e1_tall_four_hundred.jpg" alt="School?" title="School?" class="rounded-all " /></p>
<p>One is my school. One could have been.</p>
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<p><a href="http://youtu.be/hwvilfPWHYI">Aaron Sorkin famously said &#8220;You know how I got hooked on cocaine? I tried it&#8221;</a>. Choices.  He has a choice every single time</p>
<p>Choices, this mom had a choice, she could&#8217;ve voted for representatives that took better care of the local school system; Of after-school programs.</p>
<p>Choices, she could have invested in teaching young children the importance of teamwork, rather than gang work.</p>
<p>Choices, the State of Hawaii could have chosen a race to the top, rather than discarding a race to the bottom.</p>
<blockquote><p>If you offered me ice at 13, I would&#8217;ve smoked it for sure. Luckily they only offered me Comics.</p></blockquote>
<p>I try not to think: &#8220;Lady, you just don&#8217;t get it.  YOUR son has choices in his life, he can choose what video game to play, or if he takes honors English or AP English. He can choose which sport to letter in. The defendant doesn&#8217;t have choices, choices have him.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course the American dream is amazingly fair. Anybody can succeed, and exceed. But to do so you have to escape the trap. And if you can&#8217;t escape, you get neither the opportunity, nor the options to make choices. And we all start different distances from the escape.</p>
<p>The choices some kids have to make start with &#8220;how will I not get killed today.&#8221; If everybody you know, everybody from your neighborhood is dead or in jail by 21, what&#8217;s the point of planning for a career? If all your role models disappear by 23, you don&#8217;t make plans for 24.</p>
<p>Where I grew up, not going to college was unthinkable.  It would be like not going to Junior High. Of course everyone goes to college. Where my client grew up, not going to prison is unthinkable.  Everyone goes.</p>
<p>Life on the installment plan, that&#8217;s what the prosecutors call it.</p>
<p>Choices lady.</p>
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<p>When my family was thrown out of our home when I was ten years old, that wasn&#8217;t a choice I made. That choice made me.</p>
<p>When I was told I would take a bus every day one and a half hours each way to Junior high, that wasn&#8217;t a choice I made. That choice made me.</p>
<p>And when I was in first grade, and they told be I couldn&#8217;t be with my friends, that I had to join a class in a special part of the school, with special kids who had special gifts, that wasn&#8217;t a choice I made. That choice made me.</p>
<p>Those choices made me, made me who I am today.</p>
<p>Choices are a good song to sing a child. Tell these kids they have control over their own destiny, they can do anything. Until the check comes.</p>
<p>Until our kid walks by someone. Someone who&#8217;s had nothing but choices made for them their whole life. Choices that make them into somebody that you don&#8217;t want to walk by.</p>
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<p><em>I&#8217;m wishing that I had an automobile</em><br />
<em>As I feel the cold wind rush past</em><br />
<em>But let me state that I&#8217;m a hustler for real</em><br />
<em>So you know <strong>I got the stolen bus pass.</strong></em></p>
<p><em>Mr Coke said to Mr Mayor: &#8220;you know, we got a process like Ice T&#8217;s hair</em><br />
<em>We put up the funds for your election campaign</em><br />
<em>And, oh, um, waiter can you bring the champagne?</em><br />
<em>Our real estate firm says opportunity&#8217;s arousing</em><br />
<em>To make some condos out of low-income housing</em><br />
<em>Immediately, we need some media heat</em><br />
<em>To say that gangs run the street and then we bring in the police fleet!</em><br />
<em>Harass and beat everybody til they look inebriated</em><br />
<em>When we buy the land, motherfuckas will appreciate it</em><br />
<em>Don&#8217;t worry about the Urban League or Jesse Jackson</em><br />
<em>My man that owns Marlboro donated a fat sum&#8221; </em></p>
<p><strong>Choices</strong></p>
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		<title>Published in the paper this week!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2012 09:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Marcus Landsberg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We did it! As a follow up to last weeks decision to write a letter to the Star-Advertiser, one of their editors over there called me up and said he&#8217;d like to publish the letter. I told him &#8220;sure, that&#8217;s why I wrote it, so&#8230;]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We did it! As a follow up to last weeks decision to write a letter to the Star-Advertiser, one of their editors over there called me up and said he&#8217;d like to publish the letter. I told him &#8220;sure, that&#8217;s why I wrote it, so you would publish it.&#8221; He said he had to 1. Make sure it was me, and 2. Ask what part of town I live in, since they don&#8217;t normally identify people by their occupation.</p>
<p><a href="/2012/06/03/hawaii-juvenile-law-the-casa-program/" class="button-big rounded-all">See the first part of this conversation <strong>here</strong>.</a></p>
<p>I told them absolutely. Especially since in the letter I take them to task for drumming up support on the death of a baby, I don&#8217;t want to be hypocritically doing the same thing. He agrees, but then says that my position gives further credibility to my letter. &#8220;Up to you,&#8221; I say. I just want people to understand what really goes on out there.</p>
<p>And then I woke up Wednesday morning and what happened, my name is in the paper!</p>
<div class="title">Results</div>
<p>Not one phone call. Not one e-mail. Nothing.</p>
<p>I have to think no one who knows me read it.  They didn&#8217;t read the on-line version, they didn&#8217;t read the paper version. Or they skimmed it and missed the name.  The name is not so common, they even put my number!</p>
<p>And it was edited.  Please see the other half of this post to see the original, unedited version of the letter. I think the unedited version is punchier, but sometimes people don&#8217;t want punchy over their morning coffee.</p>
<p>And definitely no response from CASA. But we knew there wouldn&#8217;t be, right? What are they going to say &#8220;No, the judges don&#8217;t care about children.&#8221; Or would they say, &#8220;Sorry, we misspoke.&#8221; Of course not, never admit to a mistake.</p>
<p>Because that is what they are teaching to our children.</p>
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		<title>Hawaii Juvenile Law &#8212; The CASA program</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 08:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Marcus Landsberg</dc:creator>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I&#8217;ve gone into private practice I&#8217;ve been lucky enough to participate in all different types of judicial/non-judicial hearings. I&#8217;ve done negotiations, the national TTAB, Federal Court, and military court. One of my first cases as a private attorney involved a family involved in a matter where the State got involved and took away the parents&#8217; right to make decisions as it involved their own kids.  There has never been a question that these parents absolutely loved the kids. Drugs are not even suggested to be in the picture.</p>
<p>It was during these hearings I got to know the CASA program. And then I read this letter in today&#8217;s paper.</p>
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<p>I was offended.</p>
<p>No matter what my differences of opinion may be with Judge Viola, or Deputy Attorney General Erin Iwamoto-Torres, or Social Worker Mary Saga-Petaia, no one can say they don&#8217;t care for the kids in the judicial system. It takes only minutes of looking at Judge Viola think about his decisions to know he cares, deeply and and from his soul, about these kids.</p>
<p>Rarely am I driven to write a letter to the paper, in this case I did, leaving out the names.</p>
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Ken Bailey&#8217;s letter of 6/3/2012 betrays quickly exactly what is wrong with the CASA (Court Appointed Special Advocate) program when he says &#8220;their CASA volunteer will be the one constant adult presence &#8212; the one adult who cares for them&#8221;.  Never mind judges that dedicate their life to this. Mr. Bailey lists and discounts the social workers for CPS, the doctors at Kapiolani, or the lawyers of the Attorney General&#8217;s office. The messiah complex of CASA is disgusting.  I&#8217;d like to assure him that each and every person involved in the court system cares very deeply about these children, not only him.</p>
<p>Remember always the people who often care the most about these children, their families.</p>
<p>Quite often families have babies too young, or without the necessary tools, and don&#8217;t know how to care for their children. Yes, sometimes, not always, drugs become a big issue.  But as the law agrees, our duty is to give families the tools to repatriate these children as soon as they are able to care for them. The State of Hawaii should not be in the business of divesting families of their children. For the amount of children that go through the system, we are doing pretty well.  Do we so soon forget that children die in Foster Care too?  A wise lady once said &#8220;it takes a village to raise a child&#8221;. CASA would do well to appreciate the other members of the village, of which they are but one.</p>
<p><strong>And finally, to use the death of a child as a means to attract volunteers or traffic to your website, you should be ashamed. </strong></p>
<p>Marcus L. Landsberg IV<br />
Landsberg Law Office<br />
Executive Centre<br />
1088 Bishop Street, Penthouse</p>
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<p>I did what&#8217;s called &#8220;burying the lead&#8221;. I wrote at the end what I really wanted to yell from the mountaintops. A baby&#8217;s body isn&#8217;t cold, and you&#8217;re asking for donations?&#8221; This is how CASA chooses to Cherish the Children. And let&#8217;s be clear, this is advertisement for a <a href="http://casahawaii.org/contact.html">website that clearly asks for donations.</a></p>
<p>Judges are not regularly lauded.  Basically when things go wrong, they&#8217;re on the front page, and when everything goes right people ask &#8220;Why do they get paid so much?&#8221; It&#8217;s realistic to think if Judge Viola, for example, does this until he retires, he&#8217;s probably going to lose ten years off of his life from the accumulated effects of the stress of these kids. We sweat and worry and scrimp and have heartache over an only child. I can only imagine how many children he holds in his care.  And if he returns the kids too early, they&#8217;re worse off.  And if he returns the kids too late (or never) it really destroys the fabric of society.</p>
<p>But at least as a judge, when he walks in the room, people&#8217;s backs straighten and want to shake his hand. The social workers, for a third of the money and none of the respect are the front lines in the war for child welfare. And lets be very clear here: The war for child welfare has little to do with who these kids are now, and everything to do with who they will become in the future. Will they be properly adjusted, or will they be in Halawa? Like I told my friend the other day, being from a broken home is not an excuse anymore, it&#8217;s called &#8220;Growing up in the 80&#8242;s.&#8221;</p>
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<p>So in closing let me summarize my open letter to CASA like this. You&#8217;re <strong>not</strong> the only ones who care for these kids. We <strong>all</strong> care for these kids. The difference is we all recognize that we&#8217;re <strong>all </strong>a part of the village that is raising this child. If a single mother walked into J. Viola&#8217;s courtroom and said about her kids that she was &#8220;the one adult who cared for them&#8221;, what would he respond?</p>
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<blockquote><p>&#8220;Everybody in this room cares about your child. We&#8217;re all working very hard to do what&#8217;s best for your child. That includes working hard to get you, the parent, in a situation where we can put the child back with you. Work with us so we can all work together.&#8221;</p>
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<p>CASA, work with us so we can all work together. If you&#8217;re working alone, you&#8217;re working <strong>against</strong> everyone else<strong>.  </strong></p>
<p><strong></strong>For the good of the children.</p>
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